Good for what I need them for. I drive a tour bus and these are good all around utility dress pants. I would not wear them to a board meeting though.I ordered a 30 waist and they seem a bit small, although not uncomfortable.The length is another story. I ordered a 31 length. I definitely received a 32 length.The stitching on one of the pant legs is crooked giving the cuff a look of being hemmed by my grandmother. Makes me think that these are factory seconds.Other than that, good pants at a good price.They’re different from what I thought. They will work, but I ordered a 28” length, and they will have to be hemmed about 2 “The pants did not fit and contacted the seller for a quick solution, and got it solved.My son said the waist was a little tight (but that could just be him growing), but the length was definitely at least an inch too long, but better too long than too short. I can at least hem them. Thanks.The fabric had an interesting, almost rough texture. The pants had the correct waist size but were several inches longer than I ordered. I'd recommend for very light/occasional wear, not everyday.Nice fit and design, the material is very thin, I hope it proves to be durable. After 3 weeks no complaints.My son wore them to a wedding. They are well made and not too long.These pants wash well and wear well. My husband is tall and thin and it is very hard to find pants that fit him well for work. These are perfect.